Is Gillian Duffy a bigot?

During one of Gordon brown’s pre-election walkabout today a woman was dragged before him so that they could get a bit of footage of Mr. Brown talking to ordinary people. The woman was a 65 year old from Rochdale named Gillian Duffy. During the exchange she said: “You can’t say anything about the immigrants because you saying that you’re ….but all these eastern europeans that are coming in, where are they flocking from?”. Mr. Brown was all smiles and waffle but when he got back in his car he neglected to remove his radio microphone and was overheard saying that Ms. Duffy was a “bigoted woman”.

Wikipedia defines a bigot as follows:

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

The correct use of the term requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.

The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of “religious hypocrite”. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology or world views.”

So, is it true that one can be termed a bigot for uttering the words:

“You can’t say anything about the immigrants because you saying that you’re ….but all these eastern europeans that are coming in, where are they flocking from?”

Or was Mr. brown TALKING BOLLOCKS. Perhaps he is a bigot? Certainly, to my mind, he is “a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices”. Perhaps Mr. Brown is prejudice against discussing immigration?

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5 thoughts on “Is Gillian Duffy a bigot?

  1. I think bigots, being empty vessels make the most noise. She asked a stupid rhetorical question, over a complex issue. I can understand how Gordon Brown would get annoyed, he has to do sensible things, and probably gets really bored with explaining simple basics, like immigration is a good thing and vital for the economy.
    The idea that somehow people can’t say stupid things about immigrants is just daft. People spout idiotic nonsense about immigration all the time, as do they papers. Usually people who spout on about immigration are bigots. Thats why they are called bigots.
    Sweeping generalisations about immigrants are made all the time—they are taking jobs, all signing on,living 18 to a romom and disease ridden criminals, and to blame for everything.
    I blame the BBC for not showing Alf Garnett, so we could all see how idiotic these people and their nonsense is

  2. What?

    “She asked a stupid rhetorical question, over a complex issue. I can understand how Gordon Brown would get annoyed”

    Yet

    “The idea that somehow people can’t say stupid things about immigrants is just daft.”

    So Brown’s “stupid comment” was OK but her “stupid comment” was not?

    and

    “sweeping generalisations about immigrants are made all the time..”

    What like

    “immigration if vital for the economy”?

    If immigration is vital then, presumably, emigration is lethal to the economy of the originating nation?
    Or is it vital for them too?

    It seems to me that the whole immigration debate is steeped in hypocrisy on all sides.

  3. I later listened to Question Time on BBC 1.

    Alex Salmond said that Ms. Duffy is “clearly not a bigot.”
    Janet Street Porter said “Of course she was not a bigot”.

    These people are TALKING BOLLOCKS! They are saying the right thing to suck up to the audience. To my mind we have very little information about whether she is a bigot or not. She started to speak about immigration but made no real point. She implied that she felt unable to speak openly about immigration. I would guess that she was anti-immigration but that is about as far as we can go if we are fair.

    To be a bigot she would have to be “obstinately or intolerantly devoted to her opinions and prejudices”. – We have no evidence that she is. In fact, when Brown waffled at her, she did not restate or follow up her criticism. Hardly the actions of an obstinate person.

    I think that we confuse bigotry with prejudice and discrimination. I would argue that Brown is a bigot but the real question should be is Ms. Duffy prejudice and discriminatory? She did imply that she considered the inflow of eastern European immigrants a cause for concern. Therefore she is discriminating in some way against people who are not-residents of the UK.

    The question that then has to be asked is: do the existing inhabitants of an area (a country for example) have the right to stop others entering that area?

    This is a key question. If we argue that they do not have that right then we should not spend money and effort on border controls. If we decide that they do have that right then we should not be surprised that people argue against immigration.

  4. Trade involves two parties. Trade is good for an economy. Trade is the best thing ever. Anything that is a barrier to trade is bad. Immigration controls are bad because they restrict trade. 88% (eighty eight percent) of the world’s economy is in services. Services means people doing stuff that doesnt produce a product—things like banking retailing hospitality etc.
    Immigration is a vital part of trade. Think of this any country that controls migration properly becomes very very poor: (Communist Eastern Europe and China, North Korea etc).
    Let’s face it, the poles coming over here are legal: people hate them because they hate foreigners.

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